<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Conservatives Against Health Care Reform, And Apparently Jesus</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/</link>
	<description>Clear political commentary &#124; Debate &#124; Humor and Sports</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:06:08 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: jolemite</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21498</link>
		<dc:creator>jolemite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 05:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21498</guid>
		<description>and http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs149.snc1/5535_1204448880170_1497063847_30585715_274323_n.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and <a href="http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs149.snc1/5535_1204448880170_1497063847_30585715_274323_n.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs149.snc1/5535_1204448880170_1497063847_30585715_274323_n.jpg</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jolemite</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21480</link>
		<dc:creator>jolemite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21480</guid>
		<description>The Doc&#039;s right, Jesus was not a fascist, he was a liberal.  I&#039;ve not found any passages regarding the use of force to seize and redistribute wealth in the Bible, nor have can I find any instance of that in the real world.  Where&#039;s the tax increase for a public option?  It&#039;s not there.  Sounds like Garamoni needs to take Palin&#039;s advice and &quot;quit makin&#039; things up.&quot;  At least he&#039;s now following proper blog posting etiquette, keeping his comment shorter than the original posting.  

I think Jesus would prefer to save our country $350 Billion annually by going to single payer.  Actually he&#039;d probably rather abolish currency altogether before protecting the super rich from having to contribute to health care, education, roads, libraries, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Doc&#8217;s right, Jesus was not a fascist, he was a liberal.  I&#8217;ve not found any passages regarding the use of force to seize and redistribute wealth in the Bible, nor have can I find any instance of that in the real world.  Where&#8217;s the tax increase for a public option?  It&#8217;s not there.  Sounds like Garamoni needs to take Palin&#8217;s advice and &#8220;quit makin&#8217; things up.&#8221;  At least he&#8217;s now following proper blog posting etiquette, keeping his comment shorter than the original posting.  </p>
<p>I think Jesus would prefer to save our country $350 Billion annually by going to single payer.  Actually he&#8217;d probably rather abolish currency altogether before protecting the super rich from having to contribute to health care, education, roads, libraries, etc.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dutch</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21477</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21477</guid>
		<description>Well there is none because he never did, but nobody is proposing to do so now either.  It may be fun to name-call to convince the sheeple but the polls are quite clear.  But I will say this, if you knew Jesus that means you&#039;re a 2000 year old man, and you must know what you&#039;re talking about regarding health care if you&#039;ve lived that long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there is none because he never did, but nobody is proposing to do so now either.  It may be fun to name-call to convince the sheeple but the polls are quite clear.  But I will say this, if you knew Jesus that means you&#8217;re a 2000 year old man, and you must know what you&#8217;re talking about regarding health care if you&#8217;ve lived that long.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dr. Garamoni</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21472</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Garamoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21472</guid>
		<description>I knew Jesus.

Jesus was a friend of mine.

And you are not like Jesus.

Jesus was not a fascist.

I&#039;ll bet you can&#039;t find any scripture where Jesus advocated the use of force to seize the wealth of some to redistribute it to others.

Dr. Gregory Garamoni
Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine
http://www.doctorsonstrike.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Jesus.</p>
<p>Jesus was a friend of mine.</p>
<p>And you are not like Jesus.</p>
<p>Jesus was not a fascist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you can&#8217;t find any scripture where Jesus advocated the use of force to seize the wealth of some to redistribute it to others.</p>
<p>Dr. Gregory Garamoni<br />
Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine<br />
<a href="http://www.doctorsonstrike.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.doctorsonstrike.com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jolemite</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21466</link>
		<dc:creator>jolemite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21466</guid>
		<description>Unless Moses cards are wild, Garaphoni needs a new hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless Moses cards are wild, Garaphoni needs a new hand.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dutch</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21464</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21464</guid>
		<description>Well I&#039;m proud to say the health insurance lobby has finally found my website.  You say health care reform is meeting &quot;is meeting defeat after defeat&quot; but I just saw all five bills voted out of committee.  I&#039;m also sorry you don&#039;t dig on Jesus, because as the Doobie Brothers said, &quot;Jesus is just alright with me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m proud to say the health insurance lobby has finally found my website.  You say health care reform is meeting &#8220;is meeting defeat after defeat&#8221; but I just saw all five bills voted out of committee.  I&#8217;m also sorry you don&#8217;t dig on Jesus, because as the Doobie Brothers said, &#8220;Jesus is just alright with me.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dr. Garamoni</title>
		<link>http://www.thesunshineempire.com/2009/10/14/conservatives-against-health-care-reform-and-apparently-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21463</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Garamoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thesunshineempire.com/?p=2977#comment-21463</guid>
		<description>So the author just could not resist the temptation to play the &quot;Jesus Card&quot; by citing Matthew Chapter 25 Verse 31-46.

Well, two “Moses Cards” trump this “Jesus Card”:

The 8th Commandment (”Thou shall not steal”), and

The 10th Commandment (”Thou shall not covet . . .”).

P. J. O’Rourke’s take on The 10th Commandment is relevant here:

“What is that doing in there? Why would God, with just ten things to tell Moses, choose, as one of them, jealousy about the things the man next door has? And yet think about how important to the well-being of a community this commandment is. If you want a donkey, if you want a meal, if you want an employee, don’t complain about what other people have, go get your own. The tenth commandment sends a message to collectivists, to people who believe wealth is best obtained by redistribution. And the message is clear and concise: Go to he!!.”

All humor aside, liberals participating in the national debate on PelosiObamaReidCare (PORC) have begun playing the “The Jesus Card” as the ultimate, but still fallacious, appeal to authority.

Why?

Liberals are playing these cards because they are losing other key arguments for health care reform: PORC would result in increased not decreased costs (CBO estimates are staggering), result in lower not higher quality of care (“government” does not connote “quality” or “care”), limit rather than increase choice and competition, threaten rather than strengthen our foundering economy, violate rather than protect our personal privacy, raid rather than remedy Medicare, and violate rather than protect our unalienable rights.

Seeing the increasingly dismal poll numbers and knowing (if they are intellectually honest) that PORC is meeting defeat after defeat on all of these fronts, liberal Democrats must be desperate.

Liberals are facing mounting opposition from Conservatives, Libertarians, Independents, and many Moderates — all of whom are against a Godzilla-sized government solution to our health care problems.

They get bitter, they cling to “O” or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-Rush sentiment or anti-media sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations. (I just could not resist the impulse to Bidenize Obama’s primary campaign speech in San Francisco.)

So now they “come to Jesus” to help them win the battle on the moral front of this war between freedom and statism in medicine?

What we witnessed in Obama’s last address to Congress and now hear in the left-leaning media’s echoes of his message is a crudely miscalculated, Alinsky-inspired attempt to use “morality” to disguise the immoral and corrupt political process that encourages a cabal of “do-good-in-the-hood” altruist-collectivists from the far left to get a jolt of self-righteous pseudo-self-esteem by voting into power a vote-grubbing thugocracy with the mission of using the power of the government to violate the individual rights of doctors, patients, and business owners by forcing these people to provide for the health care needs of others — the truly needy and the truly not so needy — on terms and conditions dictated by the thugocracy — all with the political goal of turning these needy people into an entitlement group of the greedy-needy — a grateful and therefore reliable voting bloc — that will — in a truly vicious cycle — guarantee the reelection of the vote-grubbing thugocracy, who will predictably (a) find it necessary to fix the problems caused by government intervention with more government regulation and control and (b) find other opportunities to use the power of government to do “good-in-the-hood” for other groups of the greedy-needy in exchange for their votes.

This is amorality dressed as morality.

This glossy pink lipstick can’t hide this fact:

PORC is a fat, fraudulent, flatulent, frightening fascist pig.

We at Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine are convinced that winning the moral (and constitutional) battle will determine the fate of “PORC, The Fascist Pig.”

This battle will be won by those who most persuasively address this question:

Is there a right to health care?

The short answer: “No!” Any right that violates our inalienable rights ain&#039;t right -- it is a fraudulent pseudo-right.

Whatever private citizens or our government do to help the needy pay for health insurance and health care must NOT violate the unalienable rights of other Americans. This IS the moral and constitutional thing to do.

Walking the walk -- voluntarily -- is one thing.

Walking the walk -- at the point of a gun -- is something else.

WWJD?  He would use persuasion not coercion.  Using a gun to force people to be charitable is not the Christian thing to do.  Neither is getting the government to do this dirty work.

Dr. Gregory Garamoni
Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine
http://www.doctorsonstrike.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the author just could not resist the temptation to play the &#8220;Jesus Card&#8221; by citing Matthew Chapter 25 Verse 31-46.</p>
<p>Well, two “Moses Cards” trump this “Jesus Card”:</p>
<p>The 8th Commandment (”Thou shall not steal”), and</p>
<p>The 10th Commandment (”Thou shall not covet . . .”).</p>
<p>P. J. O’Rourke’s take on The 10th Commandment is relevant here:</p>
<p>“What is that doing in there? Why would God, with just ten things to tell Moses, choose, as one of them, jealousy about the things the man next door has? And yet think about how important to the well-being of a community this commandment is. If you want a donkey, if you want a meal, if you want an employee, don’t complain about what other people have, go get your own. The tenth commandment sends a message to collectivists, to people who believe wealth is best obtained by redistribution. And the message is clear and concise: Go to he!!.”</p>
<p>All humor aside, liberals participating in the national debate on PelosiObamaReidCare (PORC) have begun playing the “The Jesus Card” as the ultimate, but still fallacious, appeal to authority.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Liberals are playing these cards because they are losing other key arguments for health care reform: PORC would result in increased not decreased costs (CBO estimates are staggering), result in lower not higher quality of care (“government” does not connote “quality” or “care”), limit rather than increase choice and competition, threaten rather than strengthen our foundering economy, violate rather than protect our personal privacy, raid rather than remedy Medicare, and violate rather than protect our unalienable rights.</p>
<p>Seeing the increasingly dismal poll numbers and knowing (if they are intellectually honest) that PORC is meeting defeat after defeat on all of these fronts, liberal Democrats must be desperate.</p>
<p>Liberals are facing mounting opposition from Conservatives, Libertarians, Independents, and many Moderates — all of whom are against a Godzilla-sized government solution to our health care problems.</p>
<p>They get bitter, they cling to “O” or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-Rush sentiment or anti-media sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations. (I just could not resist the impulse to Bidenize Obama’s primary campaign speech in San Francisco.)</p>
<p>So now they “come to Jesus” to help them win the battle on the moral front of this war between freedom and statism in medicine?</p>
<p>What we witnessed in Obama’s last address to Congress and now hear in the left-leaning media’s echoes of his message is a crudely miscalculated, Alinsky-inspired attempt to use “morality” to disguise the immoral and corrupt political process that encourages a cabal of “do-good-in-the-hood” altruist-collectivists from the far left to get a jolt of self-righteous pseudo-self-esteem by voting into power a vote-grubbing thugocracy with the mission of using the power of the government to violate the individual rights of doctors, patients, and business owners by forcing these people to provide for the health care needs of others — the truly needy and the truly not so needy — on terms and conditions dictated by the thugocracy — all with the political goal of turning these needy people into an entitlement group of the greedy-needy — a grateful and therefore reliable voting bloc — that will — in a truly vicious cycle — guarantee the reelection of the vote-grubbing thugocracy, who will predictably (a) find it necessary to fix the problems caused by government intervention with more government regulation and control and (b) find other opportunities to use the power of government to do “good-in-the-hood” for other groups of the greedy-needy in exchange for their votes.</p>
<p>This is amorality dressed as morality.</p>
<p>This glossy pink lipstick can’t hide this fact:</p>
<p>PORC is a fat, fraudulent, flatulent, frightening fascist pig.</p>
<p>We at Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine are convinced that winning the moral (and constitutional) battle will determine the fate of “PORC, The Fascist Pig.”</p>
<p>This battle will be won by those who most persuasively address this question:</p>
<p>Is there a right to health care?</p>
<p>The short answer: “No!” Any right that violates our inalienable rights ain&#8217;t right &#8212; it is a fraudulent pseudo-right.</p>
<p>Whatever private citizens or our government do to help the needy pay for health insurance and health care must NOT violate the unalienable rights of other Americans. This IS the moral and constitutional thing to do.</p>
<p>Walking the walk &#8212; voluntarily &#8212; is one thing.</p>
<p>Walking the walk &#8212; at the point of a gun &#8212; is something else.</p>
<p>WWJD?  He would use persuasion not coercion.  Using a gun to force people to be charitable is not the Christian thing to do.  Neither is getting the government to do this dirty work.</p>
<p>Dr. Gregory Garamoni<br />
Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine<br />
<a href="http://www.doctorsonstrike.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.doctorsonstrike.com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

